tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post3098809749405290452..comments2024-02-21T12:11:32.886-05:00Comments on Bats Left/Throws Right: Just. Shut. Up.James Briggs Stratton "Doghouse" Rileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05378802364709433791noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-80464612803823479732009-05-03T17:12:00.000-04:002009-05-03T17:12:00.000-04:00Always with the "they saved lives." Let's analyze...Always with the "they saved lives." Let's analyze.<br /><br />Is Jordan referring to Khalid Shaikh Mohammed's giving up info--under torture, let's stipulate--that allowed the US to foil the plot to fly an airplane or so into the Los Angeles Library Tower? At least I think that's what the story is these days. Where's the proof? What did KSM tell the CIA and when? What did we get from him billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00143974241272608502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-7483677795210995572009-05-03T16:07:00.000-04:002009-05-03T16:07:00.000-04:00"...I’ve taken pains to emphasize that I oppose to..."...I’ve taken pains to emphasize that I oppose torture. "However".."<br /><br />"Taken pains" Ha! Ha! Good one! I'm not one to ROTFL, more like "SITC,S"<br />(sit in the chair, snickering)<br /><br />Whenever someone states a viewpoint, however strongly, if they add "HOWEVER," or BUT, you KNOW their stated belief is nothing but a BIG FAT LIE, and what's more, their PANTS ARE ON FIRE!Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03176801494652946278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-83113314494704896022009-05-03T04:28:00.000-04:002009-05-03T04:28:00.000-04:00The problem is, in Stewart's handling of it, the i...The problem is, in Stewart's handling of it, the idea of torture comes off looking debatable. If Stewart would have been able to ridicule the pro-torture position unmercifully, great. But I think if you let this particular May/Stewart debate happen too often, then you're contributing to normalized torture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-66187008606957831852009-05-02T22:01:00.000-04:002009-05-02T22:01:00.000-04:003 guys. You guys are whining about 3 guys that had...3 guys. You guys are whining about 3 guys that had water splashed in their face for 40 seconds.<br /><br />And Abu Z gave us KSM who have us the West Coast plot which saved lives.<br /><br />I'm sorry if you guys feel dirty that we saved lives, but hey... that's your thing.Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10701922461580640235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-38561523819220055032009-05-02T11:36:00.000-04:002009-05-02T11:36:00.000-04:00Seems to me that if people like Cliff May are goin...Seems to me that if people like Cliff May are going to rationalize and justify torture, they need to know what the whole argument is about. Is it torture or is it just "unpleasantness"?<br /><br />I think Cliff should go through the whole torture process--hanging, stress positions, slapping, sleeplessness--for about five days in order to get a feel for what's really being done to the detainees, billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00143974241272608502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-14702397508578790842009-05-01T12:47:00.000-04:002009-05-01T12:47:00.000-04:00Clifford the Big Dumb Ass; what a piece of shit.
A...Clifford the Big Dumb Ass; what a piece of shit.<br />And those reconciliations of "not torture," really, just annoyances or perhaps pranks, but oh so valuable and necessary pranks...<br />Fuck this tool.heydavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15509102502417886790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-23943105673884907202009-05-01T08:14:00.000-04:002009-05-01T08:14:00.000-04:00With you on the Stewart interviews. They always re...With you on the Stewart interviews. They always remind me of Carson's when he started inviting politicians and pundits on the <I>Tonight Show</I> who came off like squares among the hepcats trying to acquire coolness by osmosis and failing miserably.<br /><br />I love how for defenders of torture (Gestapologists?) like May this doctor-assisted "coercive interrogation" is "life-saving." I'm R. Porrofattonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-1137401319820183262009-05-01T03:52:00.000-04:002009-05-01T03:52:00.000-04:00God Cliff May is a twat. He actually claims that h...God Cliff May is a twat. He actually claims that he has <I>taken pains</I> to demonstrate his opposition to torture.Grace Nearinghttp://scriptoids.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-38033601205064561572009-05-01T00:42:00.000-04:002009-05-01T00:42:00.000-04:00The pro-torture "argument" consists of the most bl...The pro-torture "argument" consists of the most blatant bald-faced lies possible combined with logic so twisted and vile that it makes gay marriage opponents look like the the second coming of Socrates.<br /><br />And, like the anti-gay arguments, the fact that pro-torture positions are illogical nonsense transparently motivated by the worst traits humanity has to offer has not stopped the Christophernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-83591922520339846442009-04-30T16:16:00.000-04:002009-04-30T16:16:00.000-04:00I would not be surprised if the next line of defen...I would not be surprised if the next line of defense is "It wasn't torture because it worked." <br />That would confuse all those liberal commmie lovers, wouldn't it?Uncle Omarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-33608917305983083612009-04-30T16:03:00.000-04:002009-04-30T16:03:00.000-04:00They had a pretty good run going there for a few m...They had a pretty good run going there for a few months. With the "Surge Worked" meme being lapped up by the MSM, it was almost as if they themselves believed that they might be able to resurrect Bush's legacy from the trash heap of history.<br /><br />Now not only have the wheels come off, but they're careening into the stands.<br /><br />I concur whole-heartedly with the label you tagged on arghousnoreply@blogger.com