tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post7050548121364190004..comments2024-02-21T12:11:32.886-05:00Comments on Bats Left/Throws Right: Well, That Sounds Like A Really Good Explanation. Now, If You Don't Mind, Just What Was It?James Briggs Stratton "Doghouse" Rileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05378802364709433791noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-56342033818032443132009-05-31T14:45:35.292-04:002009-05-31T14:45:35.292-04:00I've flogged this so often in comments from here t...I've flogged this so often in comments from here to Digby that I ought to be getting some kind of fee, but I recommend a book called "Hellfire Nation" by a U. of Rhode Island prof of political science named James Morone. You can learn therein (among many other things) how abortion politics were all wrapped up in the "purity" crusades of the latter 19th thru early 20th centuries. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-32057800311390571122009-05-25T10:53:30.494-04:002009-05-25T10:53:30.494-04:00The Common Folk of America R Confused: From the Ne...The Common Folk of America R Confused: From the New Yorker article on Justice Roberts (25 May): "An originalist on abortion would say that at the time of the Constitution, or of the adoption of the 14th Amendment, abortion was prohibited, and that's it," (quoting a professor at Yale).<br /><br />Mr Riley sez: "Abortion was perfectly legal, openly practiced, even advertised, until after the Civil JMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13908168627568595552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-31401530410039865332009-05-23T02:47:51.097-04:002009-05-23T02:47:51.097-04:00"...Godel, Escher, Bach isn't science fiction ... ..."...Godel, Escher, Bach isn't science fiction ... It's actually a bunch of essays and related writing on logic and form which I never finished."<br /><br />Which no one ever finished. So fucking brilliant that about two thirds through you just can't care enough to go on. The guilt lingers for years.<br /><br />And I've got a Jackson that says Saletan didn't finish it either.dgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-25485180763199302232009-05-23T00:48:50.652-04:002009-05-23T00:48:50.652-04:00Man, I love to watch you smack Saletan around. It...Man, I love to watch you smack Saletan around. It's the only worthwhile purpose he serves on this planet -- to be your punching bag.bjkeefehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10967912817595826059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-59008720299897880972009-05-22T16:02:06.269-04:002009-05-22T16:02:06.269-04:00It's maybe rude of me to point out that Godel, Esc...It's maybe rude of me to point out that <I>Godel, Escher, Bach</I> isn't science fiction, since you didn't explicitly say that, but one could certainly read your paragraph that way. It's actually a bunch of essays and related writing on logic and form which I never finished.jackdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15113600776477358833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-34533104383944737232009-05-22T12:56:28.946-04:002009-05-22T12:56:28.946-04:00I think we need to start calling the supposed "sid...I think we need to start calling the supposed "sides" to this issue the "pro-choice" side and the "pro-forced-pregnancy" side.<br /><br />You don't want an abortion? Then don't get one. See how neatly that choice thing works?Naryahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05369280617520806983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-47717366826169568052009-05-22T11:06:05.410-04:002009-05-22T11:06:05.410-04:00I come around here to read rational argument. It ...I come around here to read rational argument. It is unbelievably refreshing to read it. American news was never rocket science level (science reporting egregiously so, but that's another can of worms), but it has gotten so amazing puerile over the last 20 years I cannot bear to partake of anything more than headlines.<br /><br />I know the Why of that - ratings (aka ad dollar pull) are based onAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-86350774035691450462009-05-22T08:30:49.673-04:002009-05-22T08:30:49.673-04:00I wish pro-choicers would emphasize your point abo...I wish pro-choicers would emphasize your point about abortion having been legal until after the Civil War. Illegalizing abortion was part of the rising medical profession's movement to drive women away from control of birth. If women can't control their reproduction, they can't control their lives.Rugosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04348056243298249939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-23912092252091391602009-05-21T23:51:04.208-04:002009-05-21T23:51:04.208-04:00The anti-reproductive freedom, pro-state-control-o...<I>The anti-reproductive freedom, pro-state-control-of-the-uterus crowd (you like them apples? ...)</I>"<br /><br />One I've seen that seems pretty blunt is "<I>anti-woman</I>".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-36315109952761207642009-05-21T22:12:22.129-04:002009-05-21T22:12:22.129-04:00Christ, not only is he an idiot when he's actually...Christ, not only is he an idiot when he's actually trying to make his point, but he clearly doesn't understand the concept of a dimension. If you're just picking one side or the other, it's either one or zero dimensions, depending on whether you're willing to grant the existence of degrees, which of coure Saleton isn't, since there's 1) absolute pro-life, 2) absolute pro-choice, 3) his "Vivekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14028041840451806544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-47492493358024611732009-05-21T13:08:45.984-04:002009-05-21T13:08:45.984-04:00"common ground" being the fact that nearly everybo..."common ground" being the fact that nearly everybody wants to stop abortions, or minimize the number of them. The Lib way is to use contraception. But the anti-abortionist are opposed to that as well. Apparently it isn't abortion they want to stop, it's SEX.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03176801494652946278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11211639.post-29960926609877357912009-05-21T11:58:22.181-04:002009-05-21T11:58:22.181-04:00Riley, do you want to borrow my bat to hit him wit...Riley, do you want to borrow my bat to hit him with after yours breaks?Uncle Omarnoreply@blogger.com